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coensio
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18/07/2019 10:45 am  

Let's collaborate! This is the only way to go!

Let's look for a minute at the big picture w.r.t. system trading, which of course is making money. So how do system traders make money? Simply by using 1 simple formula. Below the only equation you need to remember in order to be successful in trading:

Money = positive expectancy * uncorrelated trading frequency.

This equation has only two components:

Positive expectancy: this means your systems need to be robust and have a positive netto expectancy (= % of wins * average winning trade - % of losses * average losing trade). So for example if your winning rate (% of wins) is only 40% you can still make money, by making sure your average winning trade is much higher than your average losing trade. This can be achieved by a proper Risk-Reward management of your systems.

Uncorrelated trading frequency: Once you already know how to build robust systems with a positive expectation, the only thing you need to do is to create as many uncorrelated systems as possible. More uncorrelated systems = more profit and lower risk of ruin during 'black swan' events.

So if that's so simple, why we need to collaborate? Where is the 'catch' ?

The big 'catch' is, that it takes time... a lot of time and computing power to find uncorrelated and very robust systems with a positive expectancy.

That is why the only way to go is: collaboration.

So far I was able to produce a handful of great very robust strategies, however it is not enough to make some decent profits, that is why I'm looking for:

collaborators, investors, partners.

How this will work?

How we can trust each other in this business (which is full of shady characters) ? Here is my proposal:

We will create a real 'gentleman's trading group', based on mutual trust and respect. In order to participate you need to apply with the following rules:
1. You must have a full version of StrategyQuant. If you have no SQX, you can purchase a full license using our -20% discount code: COENSIO-20-OFF-ZSHXY  click here.
2. You must understand that in trading nothing can be guaranteed 100%.
3. You must understand that we all will work towards the same mutual goal = building a stable robust and profitable portfolio.
4. You will be not anonymous, KYC type of policy will apply here, you will reveal your identity by donating a small amount to support this project.
5. You will not distribute, sell or share the resulting strategies including parts of our proprietary SQX workflow(s).

What you will get in return?
1. We will collaborate together, by searching for highly robust strategies using our SQX workflow. Everything will be 100% transparent!
2. You will get all resulting strategies, including the source SQX and MQL code.
3. With some luck we will find more of super robust strategies like this one I've posted on our forum:

https://www.coensio.com/forum/strategy-ideas-generation-topics/coensio-b2-qqe-strategy-very-good/

How will this work in practice?
1. We have a basic workflow including a template builder, that you will be able to download to build and test your own strategies.
2. Every user will share their outcomes by sharing a link to an online file storage database.
3. We will concentrate on Forex market first, later we will add indices and we will also trade other instruments like mini/micro futures.

If you want to participate, write me personally at: info@coensio.com {subject: collaboration, including your full name}

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Best Regards,
Chris

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joseph
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18/07/2019 2:48 pm  

This sounds good to me. Looking forward to starting it off. Do we have a particular number of members we're aiming for?


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coensio
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18/07/2019 3:18 pm  

We have just started;) Participants will come...it will take some time, in the mean while make sure the basic workflow version is running on your side with the same symbol names and settings, see: this thread.


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Ecthonius
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18/07/2019 3:51 pm  

GREAT IDEA Chris 😍 

Count me in !

PS : As they say : "if you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together".


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coensio
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18/07/2019 6:13 pm  

Can you verify you are able to access this hidden page:

https://www.coensio.com/forum/collaboration-group-1/how-to-start/

Thanks,

Chris


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BladeRunner
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19/07/2019 3:13 pm  

Thanks Chris,

I want to join in.


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coensio
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19/07/2019 4:36 pm  

Ok great we have 5 people already, below an example of task assignment,  I tried to spread the workflow based on processing time. Let me know if that will work for you:

# Workflow steps: Task owner
1 Master Builder Chris
2 OOS Joseph
3 Slippage Joseph
4 Cross market Joseph
5 Higher Lower TF Joseph
6 MC trades Laurent
7 MC ATR Laurent
8 MC slippage&spread Loris
9 MC parameters Loris
10 WFM Luis
11 Final check Chris

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Gianfranco
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20/07/2019 6:19 am  

@coensio

the link say page not found   error 404
I am Gianfranco 


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coensio
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20/07/2019 9:02 am  

@Gianfranco now it should work try one more time


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coensio
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20/07/2019 9:06 am  
# Workflow steps: Task owner
1 Master Builder Chris
2 OOS Joseph
3 Slippage Joseph
4 MC slippage&spread Joseph
5 Higher Lower TF Gianfranco
6 MC trades Gianfranco
7 MC ATR Laurent
8 Cross market Laurent
9 MC parameters Loris
10 WFM Luis
11 Final check Chris
12 Correlation check Chris

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BladeRunner
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20/07/2019 6:24 pm  

I've never done WFM in SQX but I don't mind to start from there and get some hints or help from the group if I find hurdles or obstacles that I cannot overcome alone.

So if I got it correctly, I get the data from the previous step from somebody and I go forward with the WFM.

By the way BladeRunner = Luis

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coensio
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20/07/2019 7:26 pm  

Yes, indeed you get strategies from previous step (via a online link) and just run your piece of workflow all of them. You will get the workflow configuration from me so, nothing to worry you just hit start button and wait...

Gr

Chris


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hankeys
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21/07/2019 5:55 pm  

count me in


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coensio
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21/07/2019 7:39 pm  

Great! We have 8 dedicated traders already, (4 are currently on holidays) but we should be able to run some test rounds next week to see how our cooperation goes in practice..it will be a little bit slower...


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oceanonline
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21/07/2019 10:18 pm  

Hi guys,

 

just joined as well.


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